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he's very much aligned intellectually with president obama particularly on the notion of fairnesses. you know, you talk to economistses. should we really be raising taxes now? no. hour hour tax increases, we're going to lose the deductions -- >> probably shouldn't be cutting that much. the economy is like in a very weird state right now, kind of like i think the notion is to grow it now, you know? and, you know, this guy doesn't see that. he sees raising taxes not as an economic efficiency so to speak, but as you know, you don't get a lot of tax revenues out of that, but more as a fairnesses issue. and he's aligned with the president on that. so that's where lew is. lori: since we're handicapping cabinet positions, which bank or hedge fund do you think geithner ends up at? >> that's a good question. i haven't really asked. you know, i'm sure he's going the look to make money. the guyys been in government most of his life. i think he did a little work early on -- lori: how many years was he at the new york fed? >> i think eight, but i could be wrong. i just remember looking at his bio
he's very much aligned intellectually with president obama particularly on the notion of fairnesses. you know, you talk to economistses. should we really be raising taxes now? no. hour hour tax increases, we're going to lose the deductions -- >> probably shouldn't be cutting that much. the economy is like in a very weird state right now, kind of like i think the notion is to grow it now, you know? and, you know, this guy doesn't see that. he sees raising taxes not as an economic...
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. >> this is why, although obama's proposal did not talk about spending cuts and i wish he had, he talked about stimulus and infrastructure spending as part of his proposal. they will spend some on infrastructure. they are worried about the economy. very anemic in the first half of next year. connell: what do you make of it? >> we do not have a choice. we have to raise revenue. we have to cut spending. we have to get on a more solid path. there will be a cost to it. the other problem is, you know, to your point, when you talk about, let's say you use the word tax reform, what does that mean, they will deal with either the mortgage deduction, the charitable deduction or the state tax deduction. think about how that affects the behavior of individuals. that is all coming down the road. that will come and it talked about exterior. it really affects people's behavior. connell: robert, always great stuff. thank you. we do have a little piece of breaking news that wave want to pass along. lottery officials are telling us that the mechanic and his wife are the missouri winters of half of that ja
. >> this is why, although obama's proposal did not talk about spending cuts and i wish he had, he talked about stimulus and infrastructure spending as part of his proposal. they will spend some on infrastructure. they are worried about the economy. very anemic in the first half of next year. connell: what do you make of it? >> we do not have a choice. we have to raise revenue. we have to cut spending. we have to get on a more solid path. there will be a cost to it. the other...
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, and president obama gets to negotiate a tax cut with republicans, a lot more fun and easier to do than tax increases. i don't know they get more leverage in the new year with the possible exception that the fact that, you know, the debt ceiling will loom again, hitting that debt ceiling giving republicans some leverage down the road, but in the short term, you're right, the leverage goes more to president obama right now. >> i have fiscal cliff fatigue. thank you very much. >> sure. tracy: we all do, dennis, but we have to talk about it because congress has to deal with it. we have a new gallup poll showing 5 # 4% of the voters rate the honesty of members of congress below that of used car salesmen. dianne black of tennessee joins us from the home state to hear what the constituents are telling her. what are con constituents sayin? >> well, you know, i'm hearing -oth from my individual constituents and business owners they are really concerned about the spending problem in washington. that's not really talked about. there's a lot of focus on the other side, but there is a real need to
, and president obama gets to negotiate a tax cut with republicans, a lot more fun and easier to do than tax increases. i don't know they get more leverage in the new year with the possible exception that the fact that, you know, the debt ceiling will loom again, hitting that debt ceiling giving republicans some leverage down the road, but in the short term, you're right, the leverage goes more to president obama right now. >> i have fiscal cliff fatigue. thank you very much. >>...
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nobody brought up that the barack obama didn't have a plan the entire-- it's mind-boggling. stuart: i'm looking at the so-called offer, if implemented would put mesh-- measured america straight into recession. and saying it's the republican's fault rejected from the president. >> the only thing they care about are tax increases oo the greedy rich. they know it's all an farce. and they know if you have a debt of 80 billion and-- >> i disagree, i think they, they don't know that. they don't know that tax increases result in a less-- >> and they want tax increases because they're neo socialists. >> and here is the dishonesty, i have seen story after story after story hammering republicans about the need to break their pledge to grover norquist. look, this wasn't a pledge of tax cuts to grover norquist. i can guarantee you, every singleerepublican and some democrats, too, running for congress or the senate, i guarantee you, every single one pledged to their constituents, i wasn't raise your taxes, every single one did, so, everyone who breaks that pledge is making a promise to h
nobody brought up that the barack obama didn't have a plan the entire-- it's mind-boggling. stuart: i'm looking at the so-called offer, if implemented would put mesh-- measured america straight into recession. and saying it's the republican's fault rejected from the president. >> the only thing they care about are tax increases oo the greedy rich. they know it's all an farce. and they know if you have a debt of 80 billion and-- >> i disagree, i think they, they don't know that. they...
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ashley: instead of cutting government spending ahead of the fiscal cliff president obama wants to raise it by billions of dollars. does tax-and-spend work? gerri willis will help us break it down. i have a feeling i think what she feels. tracy: yeah, really. look at some winners and losers on the s&p 500 as we head out to break. the dow is practically flat right now. advanced micro devices up 5%. costco. tiffany on the downside one of your losers, down 2 1/2%. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] it started long ago. the joy of giving something everything you've got. it takes passion. and it's not letting up anytime soon. if you're eligible for medicare, you might know only c% of your part b medical expenses. threst is up to you. call now and find out about an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan, insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. like all standardized medicare supplement plans, they help pay some of the difference. and could save you in out-of-pocket medical costs. you'll be able to visit any doctor or hospital that accepts medicare patients. plus, there are
ashley: instead of cutting government spending ahead of the fiscal cliff president obama wants to raise it by billions of dollars. does tax-and-spend work? gerri willis will help us break it down. i have a feeling i think what she feels. tracy: yeah, really. look at some winners and losers on the s&p 500 as we head out to break. the dow is practically flat right now. advanced micro devices up 5%. costco. tiffany on the downside one of your losers, down 2 1/2%. we'll be right back. ♪ ♪ [...